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Good one
world best
overacting at its best………making irritating face and saying dialogues of an author backed role with background emotional music is not a big deal……amitabh’s role was not strong as compared to SRK but amitabh gave controlled performance without overacting……..
But in the end people Remember the Movie because of Shah Rukh Khan Controlled Performance and Amitabh Overacting. Even though Amitabh had Bigger Role Compared to Shah Rukh Khan, still Amitabh is Overshadowed.
“Shah Rukh Khan is outstanding as Raj Aryan. The tension-filled scenes with Amitabh and then the light ones with the boys prove that he is an actor with an infinite range. The sequence in the climax, when he surrenders to Amitabh’s wishes to safeguard the interests of the three boys, is applaud-worthy.”
Mustafa post the whole review which says amitabh is the best in the movie…..srk had author backed positive role while amitabh had grey shades…………even then he gave brilliant performance as compared to that haklu actor……..
Your Jealousy is showing Up as you started calling Shah Rukh Khan by Names. Fact is Fact Shah Rukh Khan entered in the Movie after 40 Minutes while Amitabh was before Him and even Screen Time Amitabh had more, still He was Overshadowed.
And for your Information Shah Rukh Khan Won Filmfare Critic Best Actor for Mohabbatein and Amitabh Filmfare Best Supporting Actor. It just goes to Show that although Amitabh Had Bigger Role still He Won Filmfare Best Supporting Actor proves that He was Completely Overshadowed.
Both SRK and Amitabh gave brillinat performance in the movie.This movie is one of my fav because two of my favorite actors were at their best in the movie.
We need more movies like this,where two of the most popular actors in Bollywwod history would share the screen in a good script.
Guys ..why we see every thing as SRK VS Amitabh.
It can be just SRK and Amitabh.
Mr Mustafa,
SRK enters 40 minutes late but before that there were 3 love stories and then all those naach gaanaa stuff is doone by SRK only……as far as winning filmfare awards lolz…..yes SRk even got awards for acting in DTPH and KKHH ……who the heck cares about so called awards???
He Won because that were Best Performances of those Years. Only you guys care about Awards when Shah Rukh Khan Wins.
I never care about awards……….amitabh never got any award for his performances like DEEWAR, MAIN AZAAD HUN, KHAAKEE, CHUPKE CHUPKE, BEMISAAL, ALAAP etc…
Amjad khan never got any award for playing Gabbar singh….who cares about award????
Except for Deewar Amitabh didn’t Deserved any Award for MAIN AZAAD HUN, KHAAKEE, CHUPKE CHUPKE, BEMISAAL, ALAAP etc…
It is just Amitabh Fan felling that for every Movie Amitabh Should had Won an Award.
Mustafa….come out from your lala land…….forget rest of the movie…….just watch amitabh’s performance in KHAKEE and MAIN AZAAD HUN…..you will understand what acting is about……
Your knowledge is only limited to SOLO and NON-SOLO…….come out from this pathetic mentality…….An actor is an actor whether he acts in solo like DON or a non solo like KHAKEE……..
In Khakee Akshay Kumar was better than Amitabh. I didn’t liked the Movie neither Amitabh Performance. Akshay was the only Saving Grace of that Dull Movie. As for MAIN AZAAD HUN that was another Pathetic Movie.
Please come out from Amitabh Fan Base and you will know that others also did well.
Mustafa,
trust me even if you had not written this still it would have been very easy for me to know your taste……..accordng to you MAIN AZAAD HUN was pathetic movie and you didn’t like khakee and amitabh’s performance ………well it was expected….wasnt it???……hope you will come out from your pathetic thinking style which only runs in between SOLO and NON-SOLO……..
Don’t try to challenge my opinion. Don’t try to potray that your choice is ultimate. Every one has his or her taste don’t try to force your taste on me. Get out of your I am the Best Judge and respect other opinins as well.
Khakee was Bad and most of the people agree with me on that. Don’t try to show that whatever Amitabh did was Best. As for Main Azaad Hun most of the people haven’t even heard that Movie Name.
people who consider amitabh only a star may not have heard about main azaad hun………but people like me who consider amiatbh as an actor (not a SOLO and NON SOLO star type mentality like you) will always appreciate his great acting in that movie……..same goes with Dharmendra who gave his best performance in Satyakaam but the movie was flop….and with Dilip whose Leader was crashed at BO…
What mentality you are talking about Actors are remembered for there Movies. Swades is remembered inspite of been a Flop, while Main Azaad Hun is not. Leader is remembered, Satyakaam, etc are remembered, where Box Office is not talked about.
Instead of talking about my mentality. Look at yourself first.
NKs…
I am always a great fan of Amitabh and his acting.Main Azag Hun although was a disater at the BO is one of my favorite movie.
But i failed to understand the logic where the Bacchan fans try to pull other stars especially SRK down.
I was watching a documentary yesterday where Yash Chopra commented that SRK and Amitabh have great respect for each other and have no rivalary.Its actually the media trying pitt each other.
Even in the sets have Bhoothnath bothe actors used to play chess during the brerak..
We are proud of both Amitabh and SRK.
wont it be fitting to celebrate the success of both the actors …who are arguable two most popular stars of India ?
NKS..
i must say although Amitabh is not been a BO success in this decade…but i am more dissapointed by the quality of movies he is doing and also the decline in his acting standards.
Khakee a Good Performance and Asoka not a good Performance. That is the problem of Amitabh Fans.
@Rajeev
“Main Azag Hun although was a disater at the BO is one of my favorite movie.”
Good atleast you are not blind like Mustafa whose mind swings only between Solo and Non solo. I agree with you Main azaad hun is one of the best movie based on politics ever made in India
“But i failed to understand the logic where the Bacchan fans try to pull other stars especially SRK down.”
you failed to understand that but why you faikled to understand the motive of the N numbber of threads which are fiklled in this froum just to degrade amitabh….even modz like shaan khan are Biased……..and people like mustaaf filling this forum with his filthy thoughts……
@rajeev
for your correction, if Amitabh has no box office pull then why anyopone wuld like to take him in films?..no body is fool to waste his money……..
Only an actor like amitabh can make movies like SR (dark theme) and Bhooth-nath as moderate success IN 2008
As an actor he gave his best pefrmances in his second innings………but even as a star he atleast gave one successful movie every year which is not bad
2007 it was Cheeni Kum and SOAL…..
2006 it was KANK
2005 it was BLACK, SARKAR, WAQT, BUNTY N BUBLY
2004 it was KHAAKEE, veerzaaraa
2003 bAGHBAAN,
2002–kaante, aankhein
2001- ek rishta, k3g
2000-mohabbatein
1999-sooryavansham
1998–major saab, bademiyan chhote miyan
As an actor you cans SEE his performances in movies like DEV, AKS, VIRUDHH, FAMILY etc..
@Rajeev
“Main Azag Hun although was a disater at the BO is one of my favorite movie.”
Good atleast you are not blind like Mustafa whose mind swings only between Solo and Non solo. I agree with you Main azaad hun is one of the best movie based on politics ever made in India
“But i failed to understand the logic where the Bacchan fans try to pull other stars especially SRK down.”
you failed to understand that but why you faikled to understand the motive of the N numbber of threads which are fiklled in this froum just to degrade amitabh….even modz like shaan khan are Biased……..and people like mustaaf filling this forum with his filthy thoughts……
Mustafa,
Pl. undertstand that there has to be a good charcterization first…For eg in Asoka, what is there to appreciate when u see that basically the so called KING doesn’t even wear a mosutache..which is so wrong..How can a KING not have mosutache…here the basic characterization only is wrong by Sangeeth Sivan or SRK (since he was the producer). Or Asoka was looking more a chocolatey KING….And this is also one of the reasons Asoka bombed….
@Arun
you are calling a wrong person to think logically…….He will again start talking about SOLO and NON SOLO ……personally I feel SRK never looked like Asoka in the movie………..same irritating facial expressions and haklu type of acting…….
Nks…
do you really think veer zaara is Amitabh movie.
To be very honest with you..i really do not remeber the scenes where Amitabh was there in the movie.
Family,Aks,Ekalavya,Boom,aag,Nishabd are the movies which would put BIG B to shame.These are the movies wher Amitabh is at his worst.
Family was the biggest disater of the year.
The only movie which i can appreciate Amitbah in his tird inings is Mohabbatein, Viruddh and Major saab
Aks was one of the most confusing and third class mopvie of all time.
YAR NKS U R JUST BEING BIASED….GET OVER IT
Nks..
SRKs Asoka was less irriating than Amitabh of Ekalavya.
Ekalavya caused major headcahe for one of freinds in the theatres which continued for 6 hrs.I escaped because in amitabh movies of recent days…i alawys doze off in the middle.Although i havent seen a Amitabh movie after Ekalavya.
I vowed not watch his movies in the theatres and come home dissapointed.
Nks.
I didnt even bothered to watch AAG and Nisahabd because..i knew what was coming.
For me Black is one of amitabhs worst performences(I dont care what the critics say) and Viruudh is Amitbahs one of finest performances in recent times.
Nks..
It is laughable stuff that you consisder Shoot Out …as Amitabh movie where Amitabh had a role for 15 mins and that too he wasa cartoon in the movie.
Wont you laugh if SRK tells Hey baby as his movie???
a gr8 scene to watch and you check SRK performance better than AB in this scene….
@rajeev
thats your personal opinion that you didnt like amitabh in black…….but to call it as amitabh worst performance would be too much………Amitabh acted brilliantly in Family, AANKHEIN, KHAKEE, NISHABD, DEV, BAGHBAAN, MAJOR SAAB, VIRUDHH, SARKAR, SARKAR RAAJ,Black, Ek Rishta, KANK, Cheeni kum, Kaante,Aks, Deewar (new) AND EVEN HIS SPECIAL APPEARANCES IN vEER ZAARAA and Armaan were great
yes i agree movies like Eklavya, Boom, Aag were as bad as yeh lamhe judai ke, asoka, chaahat etc… where one cant even sit for 5 minutes and a headache will start….But then everyactor does sign some bad movies in his career…why amitabh be an exception???
“It is laughable stuff that you consisder Shoot Out …as Amitabh movie where Amitabh had a role for 15 mins and that too he wasa cartoon in the movie.”
Amitabh did has his share of claps in movies like Veer zaaraa and SOAL
“I didnt even bothered to watch AAG and Nisahabd because..i knew what was coming.”
same here in case of Yeh lamhe judai ke , ChaAhat and Paheli
@don
“a gr8 scene to watch and you check SRK performance better than AB in this scene….”
only for you dear……….even as author backed role and great dialogues SRK looked like a kid infront of BIGB….even after having grey shades in his role amitabh gave a controlled performances withou making irritating face and typical SRK’s rona dhona sequence
Rajeev,
Eklavya managed to get an antry in Oscars not after seeing ur headache dear.
Whether u watch BIG B flick or not, he continues to wow the people all around still….and success of UNFORGETTABLES is proof of that
Nks..
If you take SOAL and VZ as Amitabh movies ..then should also tale Hey baby and sathiya as SRK movies.
Arun,
SRK held his own and at times overpowered Amitabh in Mohabbatyein.
SRK was ttreat to watch in the mnovie where i feel even Amitabh was better.
Arun..
If SRK s characheter was author backed same is the case with Amitabhs role.
What a lame excuse…author backed role….
Eklavya was bullshit
Arun,
Now dont tell me Ekalavya was oscar entry because it was good.
I am sure even you didnt like Ekalavya and its oscar entry.
It was of the great jokes.As big a joke as Paheli.
“If you take SOAL and VZ as Amitabh movies”
I didnt take but the makers of movie did……..amitabh was even nominated as supporting actor lolz and h ewon it too for veer zaaraa……….and for SOAL amitabh’s name was used extensivelky in movies promotion giving an impression that he had significant role in the movie
“It was of the great jokes.As big a joke as Paheli”
agreed both paheli and eklavya were big jokes
Arun,,,
Family::: Worst performance and a disater
AANKHEIN:::Avg performance and avg fare at the BO
, KHAKEE::: wosrt performance .His voloice was unaudiable.Avg fare at the BO.Also had AK,Ajaya devgan in the movie.
NISHABD:: One of the worst performance and a disater
DEV:: Good performance..Disatyer at the BO
BAGHBAAN:: Normal performance .Good at the BO.
MAJOR SAAB:: Good performance and above avg at BO
VIRUDHH:: Fantastic performance.FLOP at the BO
SARKAR: Very good performance.
SARKAR RAAJ:: OK kind of performance
Black: Worst performance of the lot.
Ek Rishta: ordinary
KANK: Ordinary
Cheeni kum: Good performance
, Kaante:: OK
,Aks: worst
, Deewar : worst
Nks..
“”"SOAL amitabh’s name was used extensivelky in movies promotion giving an impression that he had significant role in the movie”"
That is the rresaon some people didnt turn up for the movie.Otherwise it would have opened bigger.
“That is the rresaon some people didnt turn up for the movie.Otherwise it would have opened bigger.”
there is no harm in imagining things dude…you are free to imagine
and one more thing……dont think you will come up with data from BOI and I will blindly trust that….even if you bring from IBOSE i wont trust blindly….your personal taste of amitabh’s acting may different (as you said khakee was his worst perf.)………but you yourself accepted that you were OK with his perfrmance in recent releases SR (2008) and cheeni kum (2007)….hence you are atleast not as blind as Mustafa…….I am happy to know that
Nks…
Mustafa as blind for SRk as you are for Amitabh.
So when you accept yoursels as ok then i dont find any wrong in Mustafa.
And secondly my taste more often than not matches with the general audience test in India.
I can see resaon because i am not a bacchan hater.Its only i am upset with him for his recent action,behaviour and the quality of movies he is doing.
But yeah….i hate Bacchans dumb son Abhishek for sure.
Nks..
I saw SOAL in the first week knwoing very well that Bacchan has a miniscule role.
Had Bacchan been in a leading role..i would have definitely skipped the movie.
Even my freind who was a staunch Bacchan supporter like you(Although he is a SRK supporter too) vowed not to watch a Bacchan movie again after Eklavaya.
This must be one of his best decisions in his life.
“Mustafa as blind for SRk as you are for Amitabh”
by saying this you are putting yourself in Mustafa’s category….as you can see what type of posts he has written all over and you indeirectly support him…I never said that amitabh was great in Eklavya or SOAL…….show me if I had said so….dont try to put your words in someone else’s mouth…….
just stick to the topic and read what I wrote…dont try to divert from the topic….
nks!
““Mustafa as blind for SRk as you are for Amitabh”
what else will someone call you if u think SOAL and veer-zaara were AB’s films..
@lmfrz
first you go through the conversation and then open your mouth……..what I said that amitabh got best supporting actor award for veer zaaraa and the producer of the movie nominated him….it was not all and all bigb movie but he had good 30 minutes role..
I never said that SOAL was all and all bigb movie but he was given full footage for the promotion of the movie…hence if someone says that he was unaware that bigb is in the movie then he was is a liar..
whoever said overacting…i dont see overacting, SRK did the movie pretty well..and performed better than AB
Jahan Se Main Khadha Hoon, Mujhe Ek Haara Hua Langda Ghodha Deekhaee Deta Hai.
Shaan that was funny but yar AB should be respected for his work in past…
Nks..
If you read my posts carefully i forgot the scenes of Amitbah in Veerzarra not in SAOL(Although it had some really forgettable scenes)
In Veer zaara if Amitabh was nominated by the producer(As told by you)then its the producers love for him not because of his work for sure.Otherwise how can you select somebody for a 30 min role which even the audience loved to forget.
Shukar manao ki woh langda ghoda india se bahar jake apne dum par UNFORGETTABLES jaisa show ko record breaking response dilwata hai?
i wonder what would have happened if he was not that. And still he is called the SHAHENSHAH.
“”Jahan Se Main Khadha Hoon, Mujhe Ek Haara Hua Langda Ghodha Deekhaee Deta Hai.”"
SAAND JAB GUZARTA HAI BAKRE KI CHAI-CHAI OR PAI-PAI SE USSE KOI FARK NAHI PARTA.
nks!
“I never said that SOAL was all and all bigb movie”
the question is not whether it was an all and all big b movie, the question is that it was not an AB film.
he was what Anil Kapoor was in Shakti, listening the story.
SRK is a momentary entertainer……promoted by Muslim MAFIA group just to show that he is better than pure HINDU Amitabh…but it will never succeeded…..everyone has tried it for last 35 yearsBachchan is regarded as Hindi cinema’s biggest star to date. In the late 1970s and early 1980s he was dubbed a ‘one-man industry’ due to his immense popularity with audiences and continuous success at the box office. Initially he was not accepted as a hero due to his tall height of 6′ 4″. He rose to stardom amidst India’s turbulent social and political climate of the 1970s as the angry young man of commercial Hindi cinema, playing the role of the wronged everyman who turns vigilante. This role, written by Salim-Javed, was exceptionally well executed in the film Zanjeer (1973). Together with a multi-star cast he went on to act in Sholay (1975), a good-versus-evil tale, which is perhaps the most popular Indian film of all time. Bachchan’s popularity waned in the late 1980s but in the 1990s he started to make a comeback by playing lead roles more suited to his mature age, and began hosting the successful Indian TV version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in the early 2000s.
If you see SRK record for last few years, only 2-3 films is worth like Swades, Paheli & Chak de. Rest all are crab. Om Shanti Om is worst film in recent time
SRK only cares who is making film with him. When he was working with Bhansali for Devdas, he used to say all good about Bhansali etc.
When last year, their films released on same day, SRK was doing everything to make Sawariya flop
Just see variety of roles Big B is doing even at this age like BLACK, Chenni Kum etc
SRK is only doing awards show & other things to win award. He is not even eligible for Chak De.
There is Amir Khan for TZP & Abhishek for GURU
Some one says Big B is attached with some political party
For your information, SRK is only with Congress which more corrupted than any other party
vijay kon sey site sey yeh comment liye re copy cat
mai aur kkhuch nahi kahoon ga sirf itna amitab nai srksey ziyada award nahi jeetay hain filmfare best actor awards
aur yahan par baat khatamho gati hai
srk is an acctor ossh ka religon ossh kay kaam mai na la
aghar religon ki baat hai tu
amir khan,salmankhan, dilipkumar,shahrukh khan yeh sare musalman hain
aur abh tu yeh kay kay dilip kumar ko muslimmafia nay promote kiya tha
srk to mafia ki gang ka leader hai ,
sharukh is no more king,absos ki baat to ye hai ki 2008 sharukh nothing to show except the failure of paanchvi pass which was miserably failed
RNBJ is a disaster in waiting for 12th 2008
sbh baat tu yeh hai amitab kay pass 2008 mai show karne kayliye khcu bhi nahi tha sarkar raj ko flop karnay kay siwa lol
why sharukh can never be amitabh,,,,,,,,,srk is arrogant,selfish little shot-gun,disaster for sharukh is akshay is over-taken him.
jai,,,,,,,,unforggetable hai na which was blockbuster
sharukh ke pas to kuch kuch nahin
yash-raj latest flick RNBJ will be disaster and even sharukh cannot help it
amitab is just a past……promoted by hindu MAFIA group just to show that he is better than pure muslim actor dilipkumar and from shahrukh khan…but it will never succeeded…..everyone has tried it for last 50 years dilip kumar is regarded as muslim cinema’s biggest star to date and shahrukh khan with him. In the late 1950s,1960s,1970s and early 1980s he was dubbed a ‘one-man industry’ due to his immense popularity with audiences and continuous success at the box office. . He rose to stardom amidst India’s turbulent social climate of the 1970s as the lover man of commercial Hindi cinema, playing the role of the wronged everyman who turns vigilante. Together with a multi-star cast he went on to act in many films), a good-versus-evil tale, which is perhaps the most popular Indian film of all time.
If you see SRK record for last 17 years, amitab will never match shahrukh khan
amitab only cares who is making film with him. When he was working with ram gopal for agg, he used to say all good about ram gopal verma etc.
When last year, their films released , amitab was doing everything to make sarkar raj flop and amitab succeded
Just see variety of roles shahrukh khan is doing even at this age like swades,chakde india,don,oso etc
SRK is only doing awards show & to show that he can dopresentation also. he has done marvellous role in chakde india.
Some one says Big B is attached with some political party
For your information, amitab is only with one party which more corrupted than any other party
amitab alladin will be a great disaster even it will break the disasterous record of indian cinema
amitab is a hindu mafia gang leader who can controlanythin latestly media
he tortured media and said to media that if u will not fake news abt sarkar raj that it is a big hit,i will kill u all
same happen media first show sarkar raj that it was a hit but it proved wrong as it was a biggest flopof 2007 which was out and kicked out of cinema in 2007
amitab kay pass khuch bhi nahi hai
sab khuch flop hai amitab ka,unforgettable sirf akshay ki waja sey hit howa tha abhi 25000 ki capacity mai sirf 11000 loog amitab keyshowmai aye aur woh bhi amitab kay liye nahi aye balkay rani,pretty aur aish ko ghoornay aye thay
again he controlled the media with his mafia gang that u will show unfogettable as a succes this show s amitab is a mafia gang leader
amitab is a total flop in 2008 sirf oshh kay khatay mai sirf flop hi flop hai aur khcuh nahi
jai can you tell me unforggetable when akki was attended
Jahan Se Main Khadha Hoon, Mujhe Ek Haara Hua Langda Ghodha Deekhaee Deta Hai.
gud one
srk is media made disaster superstar,nothing to show 2008 because no more film for srk ,tvs are staying from srk because the flop of paanchvi failed
amitab is media made disaster ,nothing to show 2008 because no more film for bachans ,tvs are staying away from amitab
jai you are coping my words ,srk is coping amitabh and jai is coping vijay,god one
jai ,me and you can be good friends
jai lets talk about dilip kumar for a change
dilip kumar was untouchable in 50s and 60s right jai
but i have one point agenda srk is the best actor in the world and has achived more than amitab
then we can be gud friends
u r right vijay
dilip kumar,dev anand,raj kapoor,like three monkeys sitting on the wall right jai
its like kal aaj aur kal
have seen the film jai vijay……jai
no i dont agree
jai are you there
no i havent seen
what do u agree
jai-vijay was good movie,{1977]
yes i am here
no i havent seen even i am jai and u r vijay i am watching the film right now on this blog
vijay teray sey aik baat poochun??
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“One. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it. Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.
“If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again.
“When the signature was found to be missing in 2007 (after the latest IPCC report), alarmists objected that maybe the readings of the radiosonde thermometers might not be accurate and maybe the hot spot was there but had gone undetected. Yet hundreds of radiosondes have given the same answer, so statistically it is not possible that they missed the hot spot.
“Recently the alarmists have suggested we ignore the radiosonde thermometers, but instead take the radiosonde wind measurements, apply a theory about wind shear, and run the results through their computers to estimate the temperatures. They then say that the results show that we cannot rule out the presence of a hot spot.
vijay “If you believe that you’d believe anything.
“Two. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.
“Three. The satellites that measure the world’s temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980). Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the ‘urban heat island’ effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling.
“Four. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.”
None of these points are controversial, Dr Evans writes. Alarmist scientists agree with them, though they would dispute their relevance, he adds.
The last point was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005 and presented the ice cores as the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest and widely questioned the politician’s assertion.
“Until now the global warming debate has merely been an academic matter of little interest. Now that it matters, we should debate the causes of global warming. So far that debate has just consisted of a simple sleight of hand: show evidence of global warming, and while the audience is stunned at the implications, simply assert that it is due to carbon emissions.
In the minds of the audience, the evidence that global warming has occurred becomes conflated with the alleged cause, and the audience hasn’t noticed that the cause was merely asserted, not proved
“If there really was any evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming, don’t you think we would have heard all about it ad nauseam by now?
“The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990, and we have not found any actual evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming. Evidence consists of observations made by someone at some time that supports the idea that carbon emissions cause global warming. Computer models and theoretical calculations are not evidence, they are just theory.
“What is going to happen over the next decade as global temperatures continue not to rise? The Labor Government is about to deliberately wreck the economy in order to reduce carbon emissions. If the reasons later turn out to be bogus, the electorate is not going to re-elect a Labor government for a long time. When it comes to light that the carbon scare was known to be bogus in 2008, the ALP is going to be regarded as criminally negligent or ideologically stupid for not having seen through it. And if the Liberals support the general thrust of their actions, they will be seen likewise.
“The onus should be on those who want to change things to provide evidence for why the changes are necessary. The Australian public is eventually going to have to be told the evidence anyway, so it might as well be told before wrecking the economy
wat u say vijay abt these things???
jai,what is this global warming
is it giong to get worse
“Two. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.
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whats the weather in india,is it still raining
“If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. So we know for sure that carbon emissions are not a significant cause of the global warming. If we had found the greenhouse signature then I would be an alarmist again
all this flooding is the result global warming,you are right jai
“If there really was any evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming, don’t you think we would have heard all about it ad nauseam by now??
jai is still heavy raining
nop
In the minds of the audience, the evidence that global warming has occurred becomes conflated with the alleged cause, and the audience hasn’t noticed that the cause was merely asserted, not proved.
india and china are worst on green-house effect according by western.
The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990, and we have not found any actual evidence that carbon emissions cause global warming. Evidence consists of observations made by someone at some time that supports the idea that carbon emissions cause global warming. Computer models and theoretical calculations are not evidence, they are just theory
jai ab rookja bas bahut huwar yaar
vijay dont u think that poor people will feeldifficulty to stop global warming and the utility age
i think you are right jai
Until now the global warming debate has merely been an academic matter of little interest.
Now that it matters, we should debate the causes of global warming
poor people are ignored and global warming will destroy them.
whai is the alternative jai
Now that it matters, we should debate the causes of global warming
its the green house effect ,ultimateley something will be done
everywhere the fuel is being consumed unleaded
“CO2 is a greenhouse gas,that is a very dangerous gas
we are 4 degrees above normality
but when the price of petrol is raisedpoor ignored the fuel very much how abt the area where u lie tell somethingabbt urs areas
scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia’s compliance with the Kyoto Protocol,
we are not 4 degrees above normality
but very high
true jai
“That is the rresaon some people didnt turn up
weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.
all these film stars should pour some money towards global warming wat do you say jai
what is the real cause jai
yes very true vijay these all earned so much but they stored themin their accounts but they shud devote thei money to protect it vijay
mere khayak se mustafa ki galti hai sorry jai just a joke
okay vijay for now i have to go but sure will talk to u onthis thing very soon okay vijay its too late will talktommorow take care bye
also film makers jai,they make hugh amount of money.
bye
take care jai it was nice talking to you bye
okay vijay for now i have to go but sure will talk to u onthis thing very soon okay vijay its too late will talktommorow take care bye
bye
tc
bye jai
“Shah Rukh Khan is outstanding as Raj Aryan. The tension-filled scenes with Amitabh and then the light ones with the boys prove that he is an actor with an infinite range. The sequence in the climax, when he surrenders to Amitabh’s wishes to safeguard the interests of the three boys, is applaud-worthy.”
vijay r u there??? wanna discuss something abt last night
MR. BHARAT MAHAAN
In defense of Manoj Kumar
By Rajeev Nair
Years down the lane, one dashing young actor who would then be ruling Bollywood will produce a movie.
And to give his film that extra hype, he will look back on his predecessors, and he will find some amusing antics to mimic in one certain Shah Rukh Khan.
He will quiver his chin, contort his facial muscles, go on an ‘acting’ trip in which it would be hard to distinguish whether the man is crying or laughing, and cut a sorry sob figure, who will make our future generations laugh in absolute mirth.
The sort of laughter that Shah Rukh Khan, the Bollywood superstar of NOW, wanted us to laugh when he took on yesteryear veteran actor, director and hit maker Manoj Kumar.
That Mr Shah Rukh Khan will not be amused at such antics goes without saying. After all, he is not one to take sarcasm lightly. He is not exactly the sort that takes anything that punctures his haloed ego lightly.
But when it comes to the likes of Manoj Kumar, anyone – from Shah Rukh Khan to Johnny Lever – can have a go.
After all, Manoj Kumar doesn’t have the media clout in today’s irreverent times.
Spoofs aren’t a no-no, of course. And people have all the right under the sun to take a dig at anyone, and get away with it.
The tragedy, however, is that the people like Manoj Kumar and yesteryear stars who made us laugh, cry and rush to the theatres – thus paving the way for the current breed of Khans and Roshans and Shettys – simply do not get the respect they deserve.
That could be part of the bigger picture – the story of the Big Indian Success Saga looking down on yesteryear accomplishments and anyone from the past. Maybe we are in a rush to move forward, we can simply run down on our forerunners. We can pan them, tease them, even insult them… we only need to make this day’s hay while our good fortunes shine.
Does Manoj Kumar deserve such disrespect? He might not have been the greatest of Indian actors. But then, in the bigger scheme of things, how many of Bollywood’s current superstars qualify for that tag?
Unless they are given a tailor-made role how many of the biggest Indian stars will ever be respected for sheer histrionics?
At best, our superstars thrive on the success of formula – and if they do not realize that, God help them.
No matter how he chose to play his characters on screen, Manoj Kumar cannot be faulted at least on one count. While he stuck the formula of Bollywood as a medium for entertainment, he also tried to bring together a country that is now bursting at its seams with all sorts of fundamentalist and sectarian differences.
Manoj Kumar’s movies were for the Indians – not for NRIs, not for South Indians or North Indians… but for the one India that is fast disappearing even in the context of Bollywood.
After all, this is the man, who won the Filmfare’s (the one rag that now celebrates Shah Rukh Khan to ridiculous extremes) Best Movie, Best Director, Best Story and Best Dialogue award for ‘Upkaar’ in 1968 – Shah Rukh Khan, perhaps, wouldn’t have seen his first Bollywood film then.
None other than the Indian premier Lal Bahadur Shastri requested Manoj Kumar to make a movie on the popular slogan ‘Jai Jawan Jai Kisan’ which was the genesis of ‘Upkaar.’ Since farmers don’t matter anymore for India, surely, we can afford to forget Manoj Kumar.
We can also mock him because patriotism is now restricted to cricket and a stray gold medal at the Olympics.
Let us be honest: Can we ridicule a man who gave us ‘Roti Kapda Aur Makaan’? Can we take potshots at the man who gave us ‘Upkaar’?
And would ‘Om Shanti Om’ ever be remembered in the league of this man’s movies – the man, who suffered the pangs of partition – and created a wave of patriotism, unparalleled, with movies?
Yes, it is easy to be forgetful. But it is tougher to remember and then mock.
But then, after all, Bollywood is all about opportunism.
You fall, I laugh.
And after me, it better be deluge!
Source: India Syndicate
But Fact is that in Mohabbatein Amitabh was Overshadowed. Inspite of Bigger Role and more Screen time Amitabh Failed to match up Shah Rukh Khan be it Acting or Dialogue Delivery.
It was Greatness of King that He Agreed to act with Beshram Majboor Mard.